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Even if we're living in a holographic computer simulation, this holographic planet is still a sphere. Below are various sections related to Flat Earth. If you see something you don't agree with, try looking at the other sections before leaving.
Matt Whiting had this to say at Quora:
The Earth is basically a sphere, but it's so big that we can only see a tiny little piece of it at any given time. The tiny piece we can see is a tiny section of a sphere. An orange peel is often used as an example of this. An orange is clearly round. Peel off a big hunk of the skin and set it on the table. Still clearly round. Now break off a small piece of orange peel and set it on the table. Is the small section flat or round? Hard to tell? The smaller the piece, the harder it is to tell.
The Flat Earth cult is growing thanks to a variation of the Dunning–Kruger effect. It's true that “stupid people are too stupid to know they are stupid,” but when they join a cult, they often become egotistical and delusional and believe that they have special knowledge or discernment that others can't comprehend until they wake up (join the cult). When you know you know, don't you know.
What else do we know about the average Flat Earther? It seems like most Flat Earth cult members who use Twixter believe that the Earth is flat because the Bible talks about the four corners of the Earth. A big spinning ball can't have corners.
Problem is, most of them believe that the Earth is basically shaped like a giant Petri dish with a magical dome over it. A Petri dish doesn't have corners, so they abandoned their main reason for believing the Earth is flat. If they can drop the corner idea so easily and embrace the circle, why not go full 3D and embrace the ball?
Here's something that Jordan Sather posted on December 17, 2023:
Below is a hypothetical conversation between a Flat Earther and a sane person.
Flat Earther: “The Earth is flat and round. Extraterrestrials don't exist. They are demons in disguise.”
Sane Person: “God put us in a giant Petri dish and lets demons torment us for fun? Sounds like God is an A-hole.”
Flat Earther: “God gave us free will to resist the demons.”
Sane Person: “But why are we in the Petri dish? Are we a science experiment? Are we the playthings of a giant child?”
Flat Earther: “Do not question! Have faith in God and Flat Earth!”
Sane Person: “Why are there demons in the Petri dish?”
Flat Earther: “Demons are fallen angels.”
Sane Person: “Why did God put the fallen angels in the Petri dish?”
Flat Earther: “We are sinners! We deserve to have demons in the Petri dish!”
Sane Person: “Why are we sinners?”
Flat Earther: “Satan tricked the first female and we all became sinners after that.”
Sane Person: “Why did God let Satan in the Petri dish? Isn't it God's fault for not protecting us?”
Flat Earther: “OK, maybe God is an A-hole. Happy now?”
Sane Person: “What if God isn't an A-hole and the Earth is a sphere? And what if ‘demons’ are interdimensional extraterrestrial A-holes?”
Flat Earther: “Oh my God! You could be right! I need to go talk to my Flat Earth guru about this!”
Sane Person: “Are you sure? Cult leaders don't like losing members.”
Flat Earther: “I am in a cult, aren't I? I'm quitting my cult right now and walking away!”
Watch the embedded video below to learn why the Earth has to be shaped like a ball.
The following text is adapted from the embedded video above.
Here is our world, our planet Earth floating in space. We will be going backward in time, imperfectly, but done in a very disciplined manner. Please notice there is no subduction, no rotation of tectonic plates, no twisting, no form-fitting, no altering shapes or sizes. It would be impossible, impossible, for these continental plates to fit together perfectly without this being true and yet the upper tectonic plates fit together perfectly (on a much smaller plane). Yes there's been some erosion, landslides, bla bla, but overall this activity is insignificant.
There is a kind of conspiracy of silence among certain scientists. They know, but are not telling you that the upper tectonic plates of Earth also join in the Pacific, not partially, they join totally. You are asked to believe that the continents swim or drift about willy-nilly bumping and crashing as if they were on a greased skillet. This is not true. The simple truth is apparently too upsetting to too many apple carts.
We're now going forward in time to show how the actual growth of the Earth took place, imperfect as the details, but the overall is nailed. Antarctica, as you see, has become subtropical. Africa on a smaller globe move way downward under the globe. In fact, for hundreds of millions of years, the bottom of Africa was the South Pole. South America's tail goes under and wraps around the bottom of Africa, then incredibly joins coast with Antarctica.
65 million years ago, and more, these continents were joined and marsupials like the duckbill platypus roamed from Australia, Antarctica, and across southern South America, and up into Africa. The platypus. Dinosaurs roamed all over this world on the upper tectonic plate because there were no oceans, just shallow seas.
Here today Antarctica is frozen over and Australia and its surrounding islands are the remaining home of marsupials. Do you see how broadly the Pacific is opening compared to the Atlantic? This is exactly why the knee-jerk Pangaea theory exists. The Pacific spread is too difficult to easily visualize because it's so big. The Atlantic spread is so obvious that a child would recognize it, but they are the same.
Check this map out. The Navy and others took core samples to find the ages of the sea bottom. Lo and behold, no part of the undersea was found to be much older than 70 million years old. Does that shock you? It should. It shocked the scientists. Where do they get ancient fish fossils from? From the land, like in Mississippi and Utah and France and China. Most of the undersea wasn't there 70 or 80 million years ago.
The measurements of the core samples give the age of the sea floor. Newest, 10 million or so is red. As we go back in time, we go backward in our rainbow (orange, yellow, green, blue) okay? So we bury the new sea floor back to the fault lines as dictated by color or age. 10 million years back. These are the ages of the sea floor as measured by science and they're generally true. Earth grew. 20 million. I'm not making this information up. This map comes from the scientific community. 30 million. You can find the same map in many places on the internet. It's common knowledge. 40. The ocean bottom is from one year to 180 million years old. 50. 70 percent of it is no older than 60 million years old. 60. The upper plate, the continents, are as old as two billion years old and more. 70. 10 to 20 times as old as the undersea plates. The undersea plate is new and spreading at the rifts.
Why does the scientific community desperately cling to and promote the idea that the ocean bottom is sliding under the continents and into a magma which is twice as dense as solid granite? A totally unsupportable and scientifically unsound idea? They have to or else they have to observe and admit that the Earth is growing. And that, viewers, is a very big deal. That would change everything in science from the smallest particle to the whole universe. 100 years of scientific theory out the window. That's a lot to give up. It's important to remember that science and the universe should and must be easier to understand as we go back in the universe's evolution.
This is an undersea map. As a kind of test for ourselves, we deemed it important to show that not only the upper plate had to fit properly together, but the undersea had to spread in a logical reasonable pattern that we could see and understand as rational humans. Do you see those lines in the undersea which beyond information show direction? The direction of movement apart and away from the rifts. In fact, it's like a movement diagram isn't it?
Ah, we're moving now. Let me point out that the newer undersea near the rifts is smoother and more regular than the older land further away from the rifts. Here in the Atlantic the rift goes right up the middle. Half of the Earth's growth has happened since the extinction of dinosaurs. This means that the Earth is accelerating in its growth. In the last 65 million years Earth nearly doubled in size. The last redoubling took 600 million years at least.
We're continuing all the indicated undersea directions like following a blueprint. The Earth guides us. And now the landmasses will come together, perfectly. As we now go forward in time from 185 million years ago please notice there is no subduction, no raising and lowering of land masses, there can't be. It's hell in the form of magma down there. Local raising and lowering, yes, but not on a massive basis. It can't happen. There's no turning, rotating of land masses. The land masses sit in their individual plates and don't move. The rifts open, that's all.
For examination I'm going to run a few vignettes of each area of Earth that you have a right to be curious about. The North Pole, man I love this map so much. There was a piece in the recent National Geo. It shows that the trees in Asia and North America were exactly the same trees. Well this is why. The land was together when the trees evolved.
The South Pole. The oceans have absolutely nothing to do with tectonic spreading except that they cooled a thickening mantle. Tectonic spreading, even according to the most conservative scientists, has created two-thirds of the Earth's surface in the last 200 million years and therefore the same, the same must be true on all planets, including Mars. Must. And we can see the younger spreads on Mars, just as on Earth, but there is just as clearly no subduction on Mars. It can't be both ways. You either have spreading and subduction or you have only spreading, and you must have spreading. Or you can continue to ignore the facts and say, as the ancients said, that the Earth is unique and singular in the universe and that we are the center and the universe rotates around the Earth.
NASA Astronauts Caught Using Wires
This optical illusion has fooled thousands of people. The STS-135 crew members were being interviewed and Christopher Ferguson did a flip. Doug Hurley reached out to grab Christopher Ferguson's shirt and missed, but his pinky hooked onto Christopher Ferguson's pocket. Some people see Doug Hurley's fingers grabbing at something and assume he grabbed an invisible wire. It should be very clear to anyone with working eyes that Doug Hurley's little finger hooked onto Christopher Ferguson's pocket.
The video below goes into more detail:
George H. W. Bush “Green Screen”
Some people are passing around a video showing George H. W. Bush being moved through a room that supposedly proves NASA was faking stuff with a “green screen.”
We all know that NASA keeps secrets from us, but that was a British astronaut (Tim Peake) doing an experiment with a ball on a string. As Glad2bAtheist posted on Twitter, “the screen is used as a backdrop for experiments so they're easier to see (vs. a background of gear). Green screens don't have a white grid on them. No chroma key was used. He's British, doing experiments for British education.”
Take a look at this snippet of a conversation that used to be on Twitter:
There are disinfo agents, useful idiots, and insane people all over Twitter and similar web sites trying to convince others that a backdrop used for experiments is NASA “green screen” fakery.
All Space Station Videos Done on the Vomit Comet?
The fact that you can forge a twenty dollar bill doesn't prove that all twenty dollar bills are forgeries.
Rupert Sheldrake
Hollywood is getting better at making it look like people are floating around in space, but it still never looks quite right. The fact that Hollywood can make a semi-convincing fake doesn't mean that all space videos are fake.
I watch videos at places like YouTube by people I may not agree with completely, hoping that there might be something to learn. I heard Crrow777 say in one of his videos (131: How ISS Footage is Faked in a Parabolic Arc) that no uncut astronaut video from the International Space Station (ISS) is longer than a zero-gravity Vomit Comet ride or something similar to that. He seems to think that every ISS video is a mix of Vomit Comet rides, blue screen trickery, CGI, and wires. I did a quick search at YouTube and replied with three videos that have much longer clips between cuts than what he showed in his video:
Cooking in Space: Whole Red Rice and Turmeric Chicken
Paolo Answers: How Do You Get Used to the Lack of References That We Are Used to on Earth?
ESA Astronaut André Kuipers' Tour of the International Space Station
Of course, Crrow777 ignored the links since they would pop his belief balloon. And those are just three videos. Here are a few more:
One of the Most Detailed ISS Tours
One of the Most Detailed ISS Tours #2 [Deutsche Version] (two simultaneous cameras with split screen)
Most Funny and Crazy ISS Tours
Full Space Station tour with Thomas (in French)
Wet Washcloth In Space - What Happens When You Wring It?
How To Wash Your Hands In Space
Spinning Fast In Space Make You Dizzy? Astronaut Experiment
Space Ping-Pong! Astronaut Tim Peake on the ISS
Cosmonauts Show Off Soccer Skills in Space
Astronauts Perform 'Bicycle' Soccer Kick In Space
Astronaut Gets Into a Sleeping Bag (hard to have any strings or wires here)
Those videos don't look fake to me. What do you think?
People have a peculiar pleasure in making converts, that is, in causing others to enjoy what they enjoy, thus finding their own likeness represented and reflected back to them.
Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe
Sure, we all like making converts, but there's more to it than that when it comes to disproving the Flat Earth theory. This section will explain why ‘Sphere Earthers’ will go out of their way to try to enlighten those who have been fooled by the CIA, LARPers, paid shills, con artists, and ‘useful idiots.’
Some people might ask “If we've been trapped in a holographic computer simulation, who cares about the shape of the holographic Earth?” It matters because the Flat Earth PSYOP is pushed so the mainstream media can lump it in with all theories that might be truthful and say “See? All conspiracy theorists are crazy. Don't you want to be a nice normal person who stays in their assigned box? What would your friends or family think if you turned into one of those crazy conspiracy theorist?” It's an attempt by the black hats to stop or at least slow down the arrival of the ‘Great Awakening.’ Forget the paid shills and con artists, there are a bunch of useful idiots out there who are unknowingly working for the bad guys.
Another thing to remember is that some people seem to think they can't be a Christian without believing that the Earth is flat. If Flat Earth is wrong, somehow their religion is wrong. Dr. Danny R. Faulkner shows in his Is the Earth Flat? article why those Christians no longer have to wildly grasp at the Flat Earth theory as if they're barely keeping their head above water in the middle of the ocean and it's the only thing floating by that might save them.
Does The Bible Describe the Earth as Flat?
But what about the Firmament that is mentioned in the Bible? The Bible doesn't say that God built a dome and painted stars and planets on it or put up some twinkle lights. Some say that the water that surrounded the earth protected us and gave us lifespans that lasted for hundreds of years. Once that water fell during the flood, our lifespans dropped significantly.
Flat Earth : The Surprising Truth You Need to Know
Flat Earth Is Still Round After 593 Conversations
Have you ever boiled water? Did you notice the bubbles? That's curved water. If you grab a straw and use it to blow into a cup of water, you'll see bubbles. That's curved water. Have you ever blown bubbles? Did you notice the perfect spheres floating all around you that were mostly made of water? Sure there's some dish soap in there and sometimes a little Karo syrup or glycerin, but a bubble is mostly water. As it says here, a bubble is like a water sandwich with soap as the bread.
If bubbles don't float your boat, how about water in zero gravity on the “vomit comet” (reduced-gravity aircraft)? The water is curved and wobbly.
The video below has even more examples of curved water:
youtu.be/KyD8VIK032o?start=370
Here are two adapted posts from a forum thread about the subject of curved water:
A molecule of water is quite small, especially in relation to the earth, why would it need to bend?
An ocean is a mass of molecules (to be correct, it is a mass of ions and anions) which have an affinity for each other. So the mass does indeed “bend,” but none of the individual molecules do. Think about a bunch of peas filling a large bowl. No pea is required to bend in order to conform to the curved surface of the bowl, because the pea is much smaller than the bowl.
But of course neither an ocean bed or a river bed is smooth, so to a water molecule, the whole thing “looks” like an unimaginably enormous and chaotic mountain/valley system. But a molecule doesn't need to bend to fit the surface, and it is naturally attracted to other water molecules, so the individual molecules cohere as a mass.
Gravity does indeed affect water, just as it affects everything else on earth, but the attraction that water molecules have for each other is more important than gravity in holding a mass of water molecules together.
The water on the surface actually bulges a bit because of the gravity of the moon (and to a lesser extent the sun). As the earth and moon move, this bulge tends to follow the moon. This is what causes periodic tides.
Tall Ship Disappearing Below Horizon
Have you ever been to a beach next to the ocean and used binoculars to watch a ship disappear in the distance? I have. The only thing you can see in the end is the top of the ship, then it drops down out of sight. If you do that while sitting on the sand, then stand up, you can see the top of the ship again.
Flat Earthers (Flearthers) either laugh or run away like scared cult members after reading that, but they won't actually go out and try it for themselves. They'll believe some insane Flat Earth explanation for it instead of believing their own eyes.
Have you also noticed how the sun shines on the bottom of clouds as it sets? How could that happen if the Earth is flat?
There are plenty of true “conspiracy theories” for you to embrace. Flat Earth is not one of them. How about the depopulation agenda and the rushed experimental depopulation jab that Trump loves so much? How about the digital money that they want us to switch to that will be tied to your social credit score? The digital money will also have a time limit. If you don't spend it before it expires, you'll lose it. And say something that the government doesn't like and you won't be able to buy food. Those are just a couple of things in the conspiracy pool that Flat Earth tries to muddy. If you were fooled by Flearthers and became a Flearther yourself, just recognize that you're not perfect and move on.
Did you know that Trump's rushed Operation Warp Speed rona jab has less than one percent overall benefit? Some people call it the depopulation jab and it has many possible horrible side effects (depending on the lot number, concentration, and if it was kept cold). Remember when many Democrats were against Trump's Operation Warp Speed depopulation jab, then they quickly changed their minds when Biden flip-flopped and started pushing it?
Some brainwashed rona jab cultists claim that there are no victims of the jab, but person after person will post what the jab did to them, a friend, or a family member on web sites such as Facebook and they'll be lucky if they don't get banned soon after. Posting the truth is “misinformation” don't you know. Awakened sheep might turn into lions, so powerful people will do just about anything to keep the sheep from waking up.
Check out these videos:
If You Got the COVID Shot and Aren't Injured, This May Be Why
Thought Experiment: What Happens After the Jab?
The Truth About Polio and Vaccines
What Is Causing the Mysterious Self-Assembling Non-Organic Clots and Sudden Deaths?
Take a look at my page about the famous demonized medicines called The H Word and Beyond. You might also want to look at my page called Zinc and Quercetin. My sister and I have been taking zinc and quercetin since the summer of 2020 in the hopes that they would scare away the flu and other viruses (or at least make them less severe). Here's one more page to check out: My Sister's Experiences With COVID-19.
Some people appear to have a mental illness because they have a vitamin B deficiency. For example, the wife of a guy I used to chat with online had severe mood swings which seemed to be caused by food allergies or intolerances. She would became irrational, obnoxious, throw tantrums, and generally act like she had a mental illness. The horrid behavior stopped after she started taking a vitamin B complex. I've been taking Jarrow B-Right (#ad) for many years. It makes me much easier to live with. I wonder how many people with schizophrenia and other mental mental illnesses could be helped by taking a B complex once or twice a day with meals (depending on their weight)?
Unfermented soy is bad! “When she stopped eating soy, the mental problems went away.” Fermented soy doesn't bother me, but the various versions of unfermented soy (soy flour, soybean oil, and so on) that are used in all kinds of products these days causes a negative mental health reaction in me that a vitamin B complex can't tame. The sinister encroachment of soy has made the careful reading of ingredients a necessity.
I started taking AyaLife (99% Pure CBD oil) as needed in April of 2020. So far it's the only thing that helps my mood when I've mistakenly eaten something that contains soy. AyaLife is THC-free (non-psychoactive) and is made in the USA. I also put a couple dropper fulls under my tongue before leaving the house or if I just need to calm down.
It's supposedly common knowledge that constantly angry Antifa-types basically live on soy products. What would happen if they stopped eating and drinking soy sludge and also took a B complex every day? Would a significant number of them become less angry? Would AyaLife CBD oil also help?
If you are overweight, have type II diabetes, or are worried about the condition of your heart, check out the videos by Ken D Berry, William Davis, and Ivor Cummins. It seems that most people should avoid wheat, not just those who have a wheat allergy or celiac disease. Check out these books: Undoctored (#ad), Wheat Belly (#ad), and Eat Rich, Live Long (#ad).
Negative ions are good for us. You might want to avoid positive ion generators and ozone generators. A plain old air cleaner is better than nothing, but one that produces negative ions makes the air in a room fresher and easier for me to breathe. It also helps to brighten my mood.
Never litter. Toss it in the trash or take it home. Do not throw it on the ground. Also remember that good people clean up after themselves at home, out in public, at a campsite and so on. Leave it better than you found it.
Climate Change Cash Grab = Bad
Seems like more people than ever finally care about water, land, and air pollution, but the climate change cash grab scam is designed to put more of your money into the bank accounts of greedy politicians. Those power-hungry schemers try to trick us with bad data and lies about overpopulation while pretending to be caring do-gooders. Trying to eliminate pollution is a good thing, but the carbon footprint of the average law-abiding human right now is actually making the planet greener instead of killing it.
Eliminating farms and ranches, eating bugs, getting locked down in 15-minute cities, owning nothing, using digital currency (with expiration dates) that is tied to your social credit score, and paying higher taxes will not make things better and “save the Earth.” All that stuff is part of an agenda that has nothing to do with making the world a better place for the average person. It's all about control, depopulation, and making things better for the ultra-rich. They just want enough peasants left alive to keep things running smoothly.
Watch these two videos for more information:
Charlie Robinson had some good advice about waking up normies (see the link to the video below). He said instead of verbally unloading or being nasty or acting like a bully, ask the person a question. Being nice and asking a question will help the person actually think about the subject.
Interesting videos:
Charlie Robinson Talks About the Best Way to Wake Up Normies
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